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  • Key of Song/Progression ThreadDateSun May 23, 2010 9:14 pm

    I believe this is actually in E with a series of substitutions forming a variation of what is commonly referred to as a Tadd Dameron or Lady Bird. Here is an excerpt of a general article about turn arounds found at

    With all the substitutions you are actually spending more time in a C tonality.

    The changes are E Maj7 C Maj7 a min7 F Maj 7
    the a min7 is the variation, also there is another passing chord left out which would be G Maj7 after the E Maj7

    The Tadd Dameron "Turnaround"

    There are other chord progressions that can be used to provide a "turnaround" or transition back to the "I" chord. The following "turnaround" is sometimes referred to as a Tadd Dameron "turnaround." This "turnaround" is an identifying harmonic element of the composition "Lady Bird" composed sometime in the 1940s by Tadd Dameron, and recorded by Miles Davis and Charlie Parker among others.

    I Maj. - bIII Maj. - bVI Maj. - bII Maj.

    In the "Tadd Dameron turnaround" the "I" chord ascends a minor third interval to a Major 7th chord built on the flatted third degree of the tonality. The "bIII" Major 7th chord ascends an interval of a perfect fourth to the "bVI" Major 7th chord, and the "bVI" Major 7th chord ascends an interval to the "bII" Major seventh chord.

    The "bIII", "bVI" and "bII" chords are tritone substitutions for the "iv7", "ii7" and "V7" chords respectively that compose the basic "iii7-VI7-ii7-V7" basic "turnaround" described earlier.

  • PB Guitarstudio Q&ADateSun May 23, 2010 7:34 pm
    Forum post by robmurtha. Topic: PB Guitarstudio Q&A

    Thanks I am enjoying the extra strength but it's wasting time to get back in sync, I like the D'AdDario EXL115 Jazz/Blues and the Chrome flatwounds, I noticed a lot less picking noise with the flatwounds.

  • Guitar SetupDateSun May 23, 2010 7:24 pm

    Hi Pebber, I need your advice and I think others will want to weigh in and also see what you have to say. I have been using several guitars for practicing and I'm noticing something. I started out trying using heavy strings with a fairly high action on a couple of strats and it was great for building up my chops but I started to really get fatigued. I pulled out my jazz box which has an amazing action and is very fast and I noticed that my left hand was getting ahead of my right hand for the first time so the excersizes are paying off. I decided to practice on the jazz box for a couple of days and when I went back to the strat it still felt good but I'm my timing is getting screwed up on the faster stuff. I also have a better strat with a lower action but I like the jazz box because its 24 3/4 scale. Do you think it's of any value to practice with heavy strings on a high action? Should I focus on the best axe and setup until I get this timing down?


  • Audio Software ThreadDateSun May 23, 2010 4:47 pm
    Forum post by robmurtha. Topic: Audio Software Thread
  • Audio Software ThreadDateSun May 23, 2010 4:46 pm

    Thread for info regarding audio tools.

  • Nice JamsDateSun May 23, 2010 4:22 pm
    Forum post by robmurtha. Topic: Nice Jams

    Nice video of Mike Stern and Bob Berg playing Chromazone. Being a fan of hard bebop I really like the fusion side since there are very few hard bop guitarists. Berg is one of the foremost Coltrane inspired players, and Mike Stern made some huge strides with Miles Davis - more to follow.

    Mike Stern and Bob Berg playing Chromazone

    Miles Davis Fat Time - Mike Stern eye opener for me back in the day ... this was also one of the early 5 string bass tunes.

  • Nice JamsDateSun May 23, 2010 4:11 pm

    Thread for posting tunes and jams.

  • and ear trainingDateSun May 23, 2010 1:41 pm

    Thanks Pebber - have you sorted through these - what are your top 5?

  • MMA and WinMMA - Musical Midi Accompanimant toolDateSun May 23, 2010 1:00 am

    Thread for exchanging MMA files and getting help.

    Nice tool for generating backing tracks from chord progressions. I'm having some issues getting the LeMMA tool to work which should make it easier to create new files, when I get it working I'll post and update here.

  • and ear trainingDateSun May 23, 2010 12:37 am

    Thread for discussing ear training and the open source ear training tool. If you havn't tried it yet go to and download it, it's also worth downloading the additional extensions that are listed. This tool is a virtual ear training music school in a box.

  • cool thanks for sending out that link to I think I'll start a thread for it

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